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CarrotTheFrenchie

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So, I've been feeding Carrot Orijen Six fish and she's done well on it. But, I'm a little concerned about the recent reports about Six Fish being one of the foods high in contaminates and also wanting to rotate foods so she doesn't build up an allergy. I tried to start her on Orijen Regional Red, but I'm not sure she's reacting well to it. What's another good food? I'm not sure I'm ready to move on to raw yet? What does everyone think about Honest Food? I'm not sure how I feel about the packets you add water to. Seems somehow less "real" than kibble! Also, are there a lot of flavors that don't include potatoes?
 
There has been another article posted about how the clean label project has no data to back up their claims. So I honestly wouldn't worry too much about feeding the Orijen fish. Orijen is an excellent food. That same site ranked Purina as a good food and let's face it, it's crap.

The food you add water to like The Honest Kitchen and Grandma Lucy's is freeze dried or dehydrated raw and it's actually better than kibble. It isn't as processed as kibble.

If you want to stick to kibble, Acana is a good brand, Zignature, Fromm. There are others too. Dogfoodadvisor.com is an excellent website for dog food ratings.


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You can also try Ziwipeak. Their dry food is air-dried so it's almost raw without being raw. You can add water, bone broth, or another liquid if you want to, but you can feed it plain. Because of the way it's produced, it's super concentrated so you don't feed as much. And trust me, you do NOT want to overfeed this stuff. None of the dry ZP formulas contain potatoes or anything other than meat, bone, organ, and tripe so it's pretty allergy-friendly. It's also good for dogs with gut and GI issues (which is why we're off of real raw and on this for now).

And, yeah, take that clean label site info with a grain of salt. Yes, we know fish is contaminated. We know the ground is contaminated. But anything that tells me that Purina is cleaner than Honest Kitchen deserves a massive side-eye, IMO.
 
So, I've been feeding Carrot Orijen Six fish and she's done well on it. But, I'm a little concerned about the recent reports about Six Fish being one of the foods high in contaminates and also wanting to rotate foods so she doesn't build up an allergy. I tried to start her on Orijen Regional Red, but I'm not sure she's reacting well to it. What's another good food? I'm not sure I'm ready to move on to raw yet? What does everyone think about Honest Food? I'm not sure how I feel about the packets you add water to. Seems somehow less "real" than kibble! Also, are there a lot of flavors that don't include potatoes?

My suggestion would be to do your research. I would look at Dog Food Advisor which will give you some idea of the quality of the ingredients and list any recalls. The Clean Label Project claims they test for contaminants and toxins. They are not rating the ingredients. So yes, Purina could have a higher ranking over an Honest Kitchen recipe based on the level of contaminants and toxins, not the quality of the ingredients, but with SOOOOO many choices of dog food on the market, it shouldn't be difficult to find a food that you feel good about feeding your dog and that your dog does well on. Personally, I would rather error on the side of caution and not feed a food that is rated poorly on DFA, has had recalls or is loaded with toxins and contaminants.
I started both of mine on kibble but when they developed allergies, I was on a mission to find a food that would somehow magically make the allergies go away. It never happened. Stella has been on 8 different foods that she has had some sort of problem with...Horizon Pulsar, Acana, Amicus, Grandma Lucy's, Orijen, Nature's Variey Instinct, Sojos pre-mix and most recently The Honest Kitchen base mix Preference, which you add a protein to (raw or cooked). Stella likesTHK base mix and is doing well on it and I feel good about sourcing a high quality protein. THK Thrive (chicken) has no white potatoes and Hope (Beef) also if you want to go that route. There will always be some trial and error with every dog to see what works. Just make sure when introducing a new food that you transition slowly. Good luck to you and Carrot!
 
I agree with what you said above.If you read the rebuttal against cleanlabelproject it doesn't claim that the site is fudging their results. It just says they won't produce the raw data and will only give how one dog food does relative to another dog food, but no exact contaminant levels, and they are registered as a charity but haven't filed their paperwork properly. I still think it's useful that someone tested the dog foods for contaminants. How's your dog's allergies on the Honest Kitchen Preference? Much better, or just a bit better? Honest Kitchen Preference is not 100% complete so you can't use it long term.

My suggestion would be to do your research. I would look at Dog Food Advisor which will give you some idea of the quality of the ingredients and list any recalls. The Clean Label Project claims they test for contaminants and toxins. They are not rating the ingredients. So yes, Purina could have a higher ranking over an Honest Kitchen recipe based on the level of contaminants and toxins, not the quality of the ingredients, but with SOOOOO many choices of dog food on the market, it shouldn't be difficult to find a food that you feel good about feeding your dog and that your dog does well on. Personally, I would rather error on the side of caution and not feed a food that is rated poorly on DFA, has had recalls or is loaded with toxins and contaminants.
I started both of mine on kibble but when they developed allergies, I was on a mission to find a food that would somehow magically make the allergies go away. It never happened. Stella has been on 8 different foods that she has had some sort of problem with...Horizon Pulsar, Acana, Amicus, Grandma Lucy's, Orijen, Nature's Variey Instinct, Sojos pre-mix and most recently The Honest Kitchen base mix Preference, which you add a protein to (raw or cooked). Stella likesTHK base mix and is doing well on it and I feel good about sourcing a high quality protein. THK Thrive (chicken) has no white potatoes and Hope (Beef) also if you want to go that route. There will always be some trial and error with every dog to see what works. Just make sure when introducing a new food that you transition slowly. Good luck to you and Carrot!
 
I agree with what you said above.If you read the rebuttal against cleanlabelproject it doesn't claim that the site is fudging their results. It just says they won't produce the raw data and will only give how one dog food does relative to another dog food, but no exact contaminant levels, and they are registered as a charity but haven't filed their paperwork properly. I still think it's useful that someone tested the dog foods for contaminants. How's your dog's allergies on the Honest Kitchen Preference? Much better, or just a bit better? Honest Kitchen Preference is not 100% complete so you can't use it long term.

The allergies are mainly environmental so not much help in switching foods, but it has still lead me down the path to find what I feel works best for my dogs. Yes Preference is not complete because it does not have any protein in it. You need to add protein based on your dog's activity/age, with no less than one to one ratio. It is then considered complete. It's nice because you can rotate different proteins with no stomach upset or having to transition slowly.
 
Everyone should definitely do their own research and come to their own conclusions. No two people are the same and no two dogs are the same. I think the best thing is to feed a good quality food that works. I remember when I first got Jax and spent day after day, hour after hour trying to find the "best" food. I asked my vet what the best food to feed was and his response was "feed what works." That has stuck with me. What works for one dog, may not work for another. Finding "what works" usually comes with a lot of trial and error. And with allergies, you have to find the source before you can fix anything.

Good luck [MENTION=2124]CarrotTheFrenchie[/MENTION]! Keep us posted!


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It's so hard because after all the Giardia stuff I feel like her stomach is so sensitive. And I'd love to stick with something that's been working (Orijen) but I also want to offer her some variety! It would be easier to just be able to switch food without having to do the whole ten day transition thing!
 
It's so hard because after all the Giardia stuff I feel like her stomach is so sensitive. And I'd love to stick with something that's been working (Orijen) but I also want to offer her some variety! It would be easier to just be able to switch food without having to do the whole ten day transition thing!

Do you give a probiotic? That might potentially help with her gut. With some brands of food you can rotate between different proteins and not have to do a transition. I'm not sure if Orijen is one but Fromm is and Zignature. Acana might be one too. There might be others as well.


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I emailed Honest Kitchen about their base mixes, asking them if they meet AAFCO guidelines and can be used long term. They answered that when mixed 1:1 with a protein source they are complete and can be used long term, but they didn't mention if they meet the AAFCO guidelines.

The allergies are mainly environmental so not much help in switching foods, but it has still lead me down the path to find what I feel works best for my dogs. Yes Preference is not complete because it does not have any protein in it. You need to add protein based on your dog's activity/age, with no less than one to one ratio. It is then considered complete. It's nice because you can rotate different proteins with no stomach upset or having to transition slowly.
 

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