Updates on Moses's and Oscar's introduction

Chiana · Nov 20, 2015

So, few days down and things are starting to settle down

Day 1: Mayhem! Moses had just spent 4 days in kennel during our trip to UK. So no need to say that he was hyper when he got home.
Day before we had picked up Oscar and let him roam around the house. We did the initial introduction on our front yard, both leashed. Then went to backyard and let Oscar off the leash. Moses was hyper and way too excited to be let run free.

Then we took both boys inside and after a while let both boys off the leash. Moses was trying to constantly mount Oscar, so we put another boy behind a gate ,which luckily we had earlier installed between two rooms. That helped a lot to get them possibility to sniff each others through the gate. In no time both were laying by the gate.
The feeling; what have we gotten ourselves into!

Day 2: Settling down. Moses was very fixated and obsessed over the new guy. Kept trying to hump him, so we took both boys for a walk for a bonding session. That went surprisingly well. Moses still didn't want the new guy to come too close to him but didn't show any sign of aggression either. He just wanted to observe Oscar from slight distance. Occasional break time with gate was still used.

Day 3: We got Moses's humping tendencies under control and he started to listen firm NO, when he tried to mount Oscar. They started to attempt playing together and atmosphere was much calmer. Couple of times they both growled over Himalayan chew, but that was just one occasion to set the limits. Moses started to let Oscar to come closer and friendly.

Day 4: Breakthrough! First time in my life I witnessed Frenchie boosting with two frenchies

All rugs were rolled when those two went for a crazy run around the house! Phew! I have been in awe, so forgot to take proper photos or video, but definitely will do so now when things seem to go to the right direction.
The feeling: maybe we will manage this after all

Now crossing fingers that things will progress from here on without any major set backs...

Chiana · Nov 20, 2015

This is my view every time I look down. I just love that little guy :heart: and I'm sooo incredibly happy that my two boys are getting along

Squishy Walnuts · Nov 20, 2015

I'm SO glad they are getting along!! You eased them into their introductions and are now reaping the rewards of having 2 silly Frenchies who love to play and run around.

I can't wait for the videos and pics.

Cbrugs · Nov 20, 2015

Fantastic! Glad to hear things are settling down and the boys are getting along. And that is just a precious view you have!

Schimpfy · Nov 20, 2015

And there off coming around the bend Oscar takes it wide and slides across the floor almost taking Moses feet out from under him. Tag your it set in reverse and they are off again was that a crash / bang silly puppers.
Glad they have figured it out enjoy peace when you get it and game on. :yes:

hannah · Nov 20, 2015

Awesome!!! I am glad to hear everyone is getting used to Oscar being around! Nice to read about the whole process of how you handled things! Thanks for posting!

Chiana · Nov 20, 2015

I just finished reading the book "Cesar's Way" and got so much more insight of how to manage a pack!
I know Cesar is a character whose methods divide people, but for me he makes a lot of sense. I will try some of the methods and see how things flow...the tricky part is how to control my own mind set correctly

Jakeyjake · Nov 20, 2015

Great news they are getting along. Keep that mind set calm, assertive

Mavis · Nov 20, 2015

What a wonderful story. You did great with the introductions. Four days and they are besties. That little Oscar is an angel! :kisskiss:

blushy · Nov 20, 2015

I love them!

Glad it's working out! I'm STILL figuring out the "when will they EVER be calm around eachother" stuff, our vet says never LOL. I'm doomed.

Welcome to the family of multiples! Oscar, and Moses, are great and are just so handsome !

2bullymama · Nov 21, 2015

What a face!!!! Congrats--- and most of all. ENJOY!!

Alice Kable · Nov 21, 2015

Thanks for the excellent account of your introductions! The 2 of them will play constantly, and yes, you'll have double zoomies! Can't wait for pictures!

Chiana · Nov 23, 2015

Thanks guys!

bonding is going well over here.

That besides, Oscar has been coughing now for few days. It seems to get better and he has coughed today only couple of times. it sounds like he has some slime in his throat and sometimes after coughing he tries to throw up. In few occasions some slime has come out and slight clear nose running. Symptoms indicate to kennel cough...but I'm not sure.
He might have caught something when he travelled to Finland. He also just recently had his vaccinations, so he could be reacting to that as well.
I will observe him for few more days and try to keep him calm and if it doesn't go away...off to the vet we go.
[MENTION=179]Tgirl[/MENTION] did Twiggy have something similar when you got her?

Moses is all fine, so i believe it's nothing contagious.

Tgirl · Nov 23, 2015

Chiana said:
Thanks guys! bonding is going well over here.

That besides, Oscar has been coughing now for few days. It seems to get better and he has coughed today only couple of times. it sounds like he has some slime in his throat and sometimes after coughing he tries to throw up. In few occasions some slime has come out and slight clear nose running. Symptoms indicate to kennel cough...but I'm not sure.
He might have caught something when he travelled to Finland. He also just recently had his vaccinations, so he could be reacting to that as well.
I will observe him for few more days and try to keep him calm and if it doesn't go away...off to the vet we go.
[MENTION=179]Tgirl[/MENTION] did Twiggy have something similar when you got her?

Moses is all fine, so i believe it's nothing contagious.

Twiggy started with a cough after she had been going to work with me a good bit. We hadn't had any cases of kennel cough and she has been vaccinated for it. It sure did sound like kennel cough though. We went ahead and treated her, But we weren't positive it wasn't part of her allergy issues. She very often has a little clear nasal discharge anyway. Temaril P is one of the meds we use for kennel cough and that helps with allergy issues too so it's hard to know for sure. I would take him somewhere if he is still coughing. It could be a number of things causing it. I'm sure will be fine though.

Chiana · Nov 23, 2015

Tgirl said:
Twiggy started with a cough after she had been going to work with me a good bit. We hadn't had any cases of kennel cough and she has been vaccinated for it. It sure did sound like kennel cough though. We went ahead and treated her, But we weren't positive it wasn't part of her allergy issues. She very often has a little clear nasal discharge anyway. Temaril P is one of the meds we use for kennel cough and that helps with allergy issues too so it's hard to know for sure. I would take him somewhere if he is still coughing. It could be a number of things causing it. I'm sure will be fine though.

Yeah, you are right, better not start guessing, cud be anything. I will see if it's still the same until mid week and then I will book him in. Getting slightly nervous coz he is still so young. It clearly goes worse if he gets overly excited, for example when someone comes in.

hannah · Feb 4, 2016

How is everything going with your two boys [MENTION=1348]Chiana[/MENTION]?

Chiana · Feb 7, 2016

[MENTION=1276]hannah[/MENTION] Thanks for asking! Both boys are doing great!
They area quite solid pack already. However, past couple of weeks I have noticed that Oscar is starting to bully Moses slightly, so now we are weening him out of that dominance behaviour. What he occasionally does is for exmaple, we give bones to both of them, then Oscar goes and tries to take the other bone away form Moses. Oscar sometimes growls when doing it...as to be more big and scary

Moses of course as a proper big brother always gives up....So that is behaviour that we do not want to encourage. Other than that going OK

How's it going over there with Banksy & Aiko ??

hannah · Feb 9, 2016

[MENTION=1348]Chiana[/MENTION] That's good! Same sort of things are happening over at our house. Banksy is trying to assert dominance and is a little rough when playing with Aiko. But Aiko also pushes his buttons and tries to steal his toys all the time. Pretty standard stuff.. but still just working through the basics and getting them both trained up! Also working on potty training with Aiko. She is still in her xpen with her crate inside at night, and we have been letting her have full roam with banksy during the day...leaving the door to xpen open. And she has been going in there to pee on her pads when we are gone! Which is nice!

Chiana · Feb 9, 2016

hannah said:
[MENTION=1348]Chiana[/MENTION] That's good! Same sort of things are happening over at our house. Banksy is trying to assert dominance and is a little rough when playing with Aiko. But Aiko also pushes his buttons and tries to steal his toys all the time. Pretty standard stuff.. but still just working through the basics and getting them both trained up! Also working on potty training with Aiko. She is still in her xpen with her crate inside at night, and we have been letting her have full roam with banksy during the day...leaving the door to xpen open. And she has been going in there to pee on her pads when we are gone! Which is nice!

A www.... So nice to hear things are starting to calm down there as well

our boys are free roaming around the house. Oscar however does not know yet how to ask out. He just follows Moses around and basically goes potty when Moses goes

he still has occasional accidents on carpet if I'm not quick enough to open door when I hear Moses giving the sign.

We do have one weird thing though...Oscar goes potty only on our yard. He refuses to do business anywhere else. We can do as loooong walks as we like and he will just hold it and once back home hurry to the backyard for relief. It is amazing how long periods that little guy can hold! So that is one thing we are still working on

hannah · Feb 9, 2016

Chiana said:
A www.... So nice to hear things are starting to calm down there as well our boys are free roaming around the house. Oscar however does not know yet how to ask out. He just follows Moses around and basically goes potty when Moses goes he still has occasional accidents on carpet if I'm not quick enough to open door when I hear Moses giving the sign.

We do have one weird thing though...Oscar goes potty only on our yard. He refuses to do business anywhere else. We can do as loooong walks as we like and he will just hold it and once back home hurry to the backyard for relief. It is amazing how long periods that little guy can hold! So that is one thing we are still working on

Yes Aiko doesn't give us a sign either. Banksy will sit by the door and stare out into the backyard when he has to go. Aiko will just go. So we must leave her access to pee pad when were not there and when we are there we have to take her out every 2 hours.

That is so funny how he only goes in your yard!! Hilarious how particular they can be!!