[MENTION=194]mhuinker[/MENTION] OEBs are half EB and the other half is a combination of Bull Mastiff, American Bulldog, and I don't remember what else. They have larger airways than EB, faces aren't as wrinkly, longer noses, longer legs, healthier, more athletic, live longer. They mate and whelp naturally, no AI or C-sections. OEBs are not recognized by the AKC, but they are recognized internationally. We were looking for a Bulldog that would live 10 to 14 years instead of 8 to 10 years and be healthy. Buster is almost 9 months old now and pretty much perfect.